1 00:00:40,166 --> 00:00:42,627 We had the place pretty much on our own. 2 00:00:42,710 --> 00:00:44,086 Whatever was on top of the pile, 3 00:00:44,170 --> 00:00:46,088 somebody grabbed it and said, 4 00:00:46,172 --> 00:00:48,174 "let's do that for a while." 5 00:00:48,257 --> 00:00:49,926 It was a kind of music that made you feel 6 00:00:50,009 --> 00:00:52,553 that you were part of something very, very special, 7 00:00:52,637 --> 00:00:54,430 and nobody else was a part of it. 8 00:00:55,223 --> 00:00:57,725 And back then it was hard to get to. 9 00:02:11,382 --> 00:02:15,511 A box of unknown, unfinished 10 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,222 Dylan lyrics had shown up, 11 00:02:18,306 --> 00:02:21,684 and I thought the chance to collaborate 12 00:02:21,767 --> 00:02:25,354 with a 27-year-old Bob Dylan 13 00:02:25,438 --> 00:02:28,774 now with 50 years of hindsight 14 00:02:28,858 --> 00:02:30,443 was... 15 00:02:30,526 --> 00:02:31,902 Was interesting. 16 00:03:33,464 --> 00:03:35,716 It's like a once in a lifetime opportunity. 17 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,969 The most influential music figure of the 20th century 18 00:03:39,053 --> 00:03:41,889 wrote some lyrics in 1967 and they just sat there. 19 00:03:41,972 --> 00:03:44,212 You know, if this was in a movie, you'd never believe it. 20 00:03:44,642 --> 00:03:46,310 This is like the big leagues, isn't it? 21 00:03:46,727 --> 00:03:49,438 This monster of a building that we are gonna record in, 22 00:03:49,522 --> 00:03:51,148 its monstrous history. 23 00:03:51,774 --> 00:03:54,652 These monstrously talented people, you know... 24 00:03:54,777 --> 00:03:55,986 I'm shit scared. 25 00:04:39,488 --> 00:04:41,824 The basement tapes was just the coolest thing 26 00:04:41,907 --> 00:04:44,493 that I could've imagined getting a hold of. 27 00:04:44,577 --> 00:04:47,204 It's sort of like, "I've stumbled upon a secret that wasn't... 28 00:04:47,288 --> 00:04:48,888 "That wasn't ever meant for me to hear." 29 00:04:48,914 --> 00:04:50,809 It's just, kind of, one of those signposts for me 30 00:04:50,833 --> 00:04:52,418 that's like, "you can be yourself." 31 00:04:52,501 --> 00:04:54,396 You know, because that's what the basement tapes is to me. 32 00:04:54,420 --> 00:04:59,008 It's like the sound of my musical heroes being themselves. 33 00:04:59,717 --> 00:05:02,261 I mean, the basement tapes are an inspiration. 34 00:05:02,344 --> 00:05:05,264 These are songs from that time, lyrically, 35 00:05:05,347 --> 00:05:06,849 that have sat undisturbed. 36 00:05:06,932 --> 00:05:10,728 And you can't imagine that the writer would leave it in a drawer 37 00:05:10,811 --> 00:05:13,189 for 40 odd years, you know. 38 00:05:14,273 --> 00:05:15,983 You can't record everything you wrote, 39 00:05:16,066 --> 00:05:19,778 so it's understandable that a lot of this stuff 40 00:05:19,862 --> 00:05:22,698 just fell by the wayside or... 41 00:05:22,781 --> 00:05:26,744 I don't even know where it was kept all these years. 42 00:05:27,578 --> 00:05:31,415 I have never seen these lyrics since the day they were written. 43 00:05:31,499 --> 00:05:32,625 Never seen them. 44 00:05:34,460 --> 00:05:36,253 - Is that what I think it is? - Have a look. 45 00:05:39,089 --> 00:05:40,674 T bone called me in and told me 46 00:05:40,758 --> 00:05:43,761 that he had these unpublished Dylan lyrics 47 00:05:43,844 --> 00:05:45,284 from the time of the basement tapes. 48 00:05:45,471 --> 00:05:47,097 I said, "what? What are they like?" 49 00:05:48,599 --> 00:05:51,519 There is a lot of archaeological evidence in here 50 00:05:51,602 --> 00:05:54,021 about what he was doing. 51 00:05:58,776 --> 00:06:00,416 I like the one with the drawings on them. 52 00:06:00,444 --> 00:06:02,112 - Yeah, there are a lot of those. - Yeah. 53 00:06:02,196 --> 00:06:03,614 Look at the back of this. 54 00:06:06,450 --> 00:06:08,577 It's like cool to get this gift of, like, 55 00:06:08,661 --> 00:06:10,371 "here's some lyrics for your songs. 56 00:06:10,454 --> 00:06:13,082 "Well, Bob Dylan wrote them. No big deal." 57 00:06:13,165 --> 00:06:15,960 You know, it's like, that about as awesome as it gets. 58 00:06:16,126 --> 00:06:17,336 Yeah. 59 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:21,215 In a way, I would have preferred to have opened them 60 00:06:21,298 --> 00:06:25,219 not having to then go and help make a record around them. 61 00:06:25,302 --> 00:06:27,942 I would have preferred to have just opened them, and just as a fan, 62 00:06:27,972 --> 00:06:29,974 because I opened them and just got stressed. 63 00:06:30,057 --> 00:06:33,477 I was like, "how are we gonna write songs for these?" You know. 64 00:06:40,651 --> 00:06:42,128 So, there's no tunes for any of these? 65 00:06:42,152 --> 00:06:44,613 - There's just poetry. - No, no, just all the lyrics. 66 00:06:44,697 --> 00:06:46,574 You're gonna find two or three in here... 67 00:06:46,657 --> 00:06:47,950 You're gonna write... 68 00:06:48,033 --> 00:06:50,578 Because it's just... Because it's gotta happen. 69 00:06:50,995 --> 00:06:54,415 There's some that may seem exactly right for you instantly, you know? 70 00:06:55,541 --> 00:06:58,419 See this. What do you think of this one here? Look. 71 00:06:58,502 --> 00:07:00,462 That's Spanish Mary. 72 00:07:05,342 --> 00:07:07,469 I'm an interpreter. Even when I'm writing songs, 73 00:07:07,553 --> 00:07:10,514 I am just a vehicle for the story. 74 00:07:10,598 --> 00:07:13,017 Always. Even if it's a completely original piece 75 00:07:13,100 --> 00:07:15,519 it's like, I'm writing it for a reason. 76 00:07:15,603 --> 00:07:17,855 It's for the story to get out, 77 00:07:18,230 --> 00:07:19,773 so what I try to do is go, 78 00:07:19,857 --> 00:07:22,818 "well, okay, what's the song trying to say?" 79 00:07:44,632 --> 00:07:47,393 - It's pretty, isn't it? It's really pretty. - It's really cool, yeah. 80 00:07:48,010 --> 00:07:51,889 My knowledge of Dylan is pretty surface, and I kind of figured, 81 00:07:51,972 --> 00:07:53,450 instead of going and doing a lot of research, 82 00:07:53,474 --> 00:07:55,017 like, everybody else in this project 83 00:07:55,100 --> 00:07:57,561 probably knows of this stuff and has heard this stuff, 84 00:07:57,645 --> 00:08:01,440 maybe I could be a voice that's coming from, kind of, left field. 85 00:08:01,982 --> 00:08:06,820 So what are the... I know that there was a tape of something that they... 86 00:08:06,904 --> 00:08:10,824 That people, you know, did in the basement, right? 87 00:08:10,908 --> 00:08:12,910 - Yeah, well... - So that... what was that? 88 00:08:12,993 --> 00:08:15,537 Because when I hear people talk about basement tapes, like, 89 00:08:15,621 --> 00:08:16,830 "it's the basement tapes." 90 00:08:16,914 --> 00:08:19,667 Well, he was the most visible star in the world at the time, 91 00:08:19,750 --> 00:08:21,210 and hejust disappeared. 92 00:08:24,421 --> 00:08:26,924 How did I wind up in Woodstock? 93 00:08:28,258 --> 00:08:29,802 I don't know. 94 00:08:34,181 --> 00:08:36,809 It seems incredible 95 00:08:36,892 --> 00:08:38,852 that an artist of Dylan's stature 96 00:08:38,936 --> 00:08:41,563 and sheer commercial importance at that point, 97 00:08:41,647 --> 00:08:43,440 could disappear from view. 98 00:08:43,524 --> 00:08:44,983 The pressures that he was under, 99 00:08:45,067 --> 00:08:46,318 the relentless touring... 100 00:08:46,402 --> 00:08:48,529 He was up for three days, 72 hours straight. 101 00:08:48,612 --> 00:08:51,031 He finishes this enormous tour 102 00:08:51,115 --> 00:08:55,494 and he comes home and he has, god knows how many dates lined up. 103 00:08:55,577 --> 00:08:57,579 Take that girl off our car, please. 104 00:08:57,663 --> 00:08:59,456 Could you please take her off the car? 105 00:08:59,540 --> 00:09:02,167 He realises he's got to get out of this 106 00:09:02,251 --> 00:09:07,131 and the motorcycle accident provides him with that escape clause. 107 00:09:11,969 --> 00:09:15,389 After Bob Dylan's motorcycle accident the rumours were out of hand. 108 00:09:15,472 --> 00:09:18,934 Of course there was all kinds of speculation about whether he was a vegetable now. 109 00:09:19,017 --> 00:09:20,811 He's replaced by a body double. 110 00:09:20,894 --> 00:09:23,147 He's been completely disfigured. 111 00:09:23,272 --> 00:09:25,482 He was assassinated by the CIA. 112 00:09:25,566 --> 00:09:27,109 He's actually dead. 113 00:09:27,276 --> 00:09:28,819 Dylan had gone over to the Cubans. 114 00:09:28,902 --> 00:09:32,281 And was now in Castro's socialist paradise. 115 00:09:32,364 --> 00:09:34,742 What it allowed him to do was stop. 116 00:09:36,493 --> 00:09:39,580 That accident probably saved his life. 117 00:09:39,663 --> 00:09:43,834 I've heard that maybe he really didn't have a big accident on the motorcycle. 118 00:09:47,546 --> 00:09:49,965 Dylan is just one mystery after another, 119 00:09:50,048 --> 00:09:53,427 and we'll never really know what the basement tapes story was. 120 00:09:53,510 --> 00:09:57,931 All we know was that this man wrote more songs in 1967 121 00:09:58,015 --> 00:10:00,350 than any other year of his career. 122 00:10:20,496 --> 00:10:21,723 I started going through this process 123 00:10:21,747 --> 00:10:25,584 of digging into all my piles of old four-track tapes, 124 00:10:25,667 --> 00:10:28,003 so I just kind of started, like, listening to these songs, 125 00:10:28,086 --> 00:10:29,505 and the vocal melodies... 126 00:10:31,715 --> 00:10:34,051 Just kind of started coming out. 127 00:10:47,773 --> 00:10:49,650 And then just trying some things like strings, 128 00:10:49,733 --> 00:10:51,401 background vocals and stuff 129 00:10:52,361 --> 00:10:56,114 and then to, like, trying out different harmonies, 130 00:10:56,198 --> 00:10:58,909 which will be fun to hear the other people sing. 131 00:11:20,722 --> 00:11:26,270 You're experiencing the magic of the monster clarity xd travel speaker. 132 00:11:28,188 --> 00:11:30,315 This whole thing can turn into an endorsement. 133 00:11:31,567 --> 00:11:35,362 Do you start with, like, a phone and a guitar, or do you start right off with this stuff? 134 00:11:35,445 --> 00:11:37,281 You mean, well, like for an idea 135 00:11:37,364 --> 00:11:39,366 often times I'll just get it on my phone. 136 00:11:39,449 --> 00:11:40,742 Just to sing it... 137 00:11:40,826 --> 00:11:43,287 Just to, you know, capture it real quick so I don't forget it. 138 00:12:13,066 --> 00:12:16,320 I did it, like, on this thing, 139 00:12:16,403 --> 00:12:18,947 and so I'm sitting in the seat, 140 00:12:19,031 --> 00:12:20,949 like, making the track 141 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,661 I haven't got any reading glasses. I can't see any damn thing. 142 00:12:24,953 --> 00:12:27,915 And then I got in the aeroplane bathroom and I just recorded it. 143 00:12:36,173 --> 00:12:38,508 Most of the ideas you have come to you when you're alone. 144 00:12:38,675 --> 00:12:41,845 I'm sure they thought I'm some sort of, you know, threat to the plane 145 00:12:41,929 --> 00:12:43,698 'cause I kept going into the bathroom to sing, 146 00:12:43,722 --> 00:12:46,183 like a demo of one of these songs, you know. 147 00:13:03,533 --> 00:13:07,037 See, it's kind of different, so that's the beauty of it. 148 00:13:07,996 --> 00:13:10,457 And you did that in an aeroplane bathroom? 149 00:13:10,540 --> 00:13:11,541 Yeah. 150 00:14:20,193 --> 00:14:22,279 I feel like, now labels are what... 151 00:14:22,362 --> 00:14:23,631 You know, it's a different thing with labels, 152 00:14:23,655 --> 00:14:27,367 like, I don't think a young musician grows up dreaming of, 153 00:14:29,619 --> 00:14:32,164 signing that record deal the way that I did. 154 00:14:32,247 --> 00:14:34,958 And definitely the people before my generation did. 155 00:14:36,877 --> 00:14:41,131 But that was still a very real dream when I was growing up, being like, 156 00:14:41,214 --> 00:14:45,469 "man, someday we're gonna sign a record contract with a record label." 157 00:14:45,594 --> 00:14:47,512 And that dream in my head 158 00:14:47,596 --> 00:14:51,266 was always taking place at the capitol. 159 00:14:51,349 --> 00:14:55,312 It was always like envisioning myself walking through those doors, 160 00:14:55,395 --> 00:14:57,189 and walking out, like, cheering. 161 00:15:08,116 --> 00:15:09,451 All right. 162 00:15:13,455 --> 00:15:15,624 - Hi. - Capitol records, how can I help? 163 00:15:16,374 --> 00:15:18,710 - My name is Taylor goldsmith. - Name's Taylor? 164 00:15:18,794 --> 00:15:21,713 I think I have a drive-on thing or something. 165 00:15:21,797 --> 00:15:25,759 Yeah, it's spot number 10, behind number 9, which is down there in the middle. 166 00:15:25,842 --> 00:15:26,885 Cool. 167 00:15:28,678 --> 00:15:30,222 It didn't even look like he checked. 168 00:15:31,223 --> 00:15:33,183 I just have a trustworthy face. 169 00:15:33,266 --> 00:15:34,518 Can't help it. 170 00:15:45,112 --> 00:15:47,030 Which tunes have you worked on? 171 00:15:47,114 --> 00:15:48,698 I don't really know. 172 00:15:48,782 --> 00:15:50,158 I'd got this... I actually... 173 00:15:50,242 --> 00:15:52,244 - Yesterday I did one for this one... - Jeez. 174 00:15:52,327 --> 00:15:53,870 And I wrote, I... 175 00:15:53,954 --> 00:15:55,413 I sort of, in the spirit of... 176 00:15:55,497 --> 00:15:56,957 Actually, the... 177 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,625 Just so... I don't... 178 00:15:58,708 --> 00:16:00,812 All of us are singing in the chorus. Like, we all take turns 179 00:16:00,836 --> 00:16:03,296 - singing a different line and stuff. - Nice, nice. 180 00:16:03,380 --> 00:16:05,799 I don't think anybody knew what we were coming into, 181 00:16:05,882 --> 00:16:08,677 in terms of what to expect this album to become. 182 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,471 I thought we would all show each other 183 00:16:11,555 --> 00:16:14,349 our different versions of the same songs with the same lyrics, 184 00:16:14,432 --> 00:16:17,477 and then we would all pick certain versions to chase down. 185 00:16:25,569 --> 00:16:27,487 But I did this weird thing like a... 186 00:16:35,370 --> 00:16:37,038 Of course, you fucking did. 187 00:16:37,706 --> 00:16:40,458 I didn't want to just write a bunch of stuff and force it on... 188 00:16:40,542 --> 00:16:42,262 I'm really excited about the collaboration. 189 00:16:42,294 --> 00:16:45,672 I'm really excited about what Rhiannon and I could write together, 190 00:16:45,755 --> 00:16:49,467 or what, you know, fucking Elvis costello and I could write, you know. 191 00:16:49,676 --> 00:16:51,845 I really want him to like what I do. 192 00:16:51,928 --> 00:16:53,848 And I'm really excited to hear what he has to do. 193 00:16:56,933 --> 00:16:58,351 I love that guitar, man. 194 00:16:58,435 --> 00:16:59,477 This is a great guitar. 195 00:16:59,561 --> 00:17:01,372 This is the same kind of guitar I wrote my first album on. 196 00:17:01,396 --> 00:17:02,556 - Is it, really? Cool. - Yeah. 197 00:17:02,981 --> 00:17:03,982 So, you can't get them, 198 00:17:04,107 --> 00:17:06,443 because Jimmy page, I found out later, 199 00:17:06,526 --> 00:17:08,403 also played one on stainnay to heaven. 200 00:17:08,486 --> 00:17:11,907 So, every kid wants one of these. You know... 201 00:17:11,990 --> 00:17:14,451 And I don't know how to play that, othennise I'd demonstrate. 202 00:17:15,660 --> 00:17:17,579 How greatness sounds. 203 00:17:19,831 --> 00:17:21,791 I'm just trying to work out what the term is. 204 00:17:23,793 --> 00:17:26,087 I didn't want to come along and have nothing to offer, 205 00:17:26,171 --> 00:17:29,549 you know, I thought, I'm sure everybody will write lots of great versions, 206 00:17:29,633 --> 00:17:31,259 but we should all have a few, 207 00:17:31,343 --> 00:17:33,553 and I think, you know, 208 00:17:33,637 --> 00:17:36,223 ones that I've really heard is up-tempo, 209 00:17:36,306 --> 00:17:38,225 couple of other people said they are balanced. 210 00:17:38,308 --> 00:17:40,977 So, you know, obviously there isn't just one way to do it. 211 00:17:41,519 --> 00:17:45,523 But I thought that was all just curious, you know. 212 00:17:45,607 --> 00:17:46,900 Certain things reveal themselves 213 00:17:46,983 --> 00:17:49,653 about the way the words unfolded on the page. 214 00:17:50,445 --> 00:17:52,572 Dude, so, I had a hard time, like, 215 00:17:53,531 --> 00:17:55,867 sometimes his inflection was implied, 216 00:17:55,951 --> 00:17:57,535 or his notes were implied, 217 00:17:57,619 --> 00:18:00,747 but sometimes it wasn't even that, sometimes it was just straight up, like... 218 00:18:00,830 --> 00:18:02,165 - Like... - Right. 219 00:18:02,249 --> 00:18:05,502 Yes, but I wonder if "every one" had an intention, 220 00:18:05,585 --> 00:18:06,836 or if it was just words. 221 00:18:07,212 --> 00:18:09,506 - Yeah. - Or didn't even have an intention. 222 00:18:10,173 --> 00:18:12,676 I wonder if we'll ever find out. Or not. 223 00:18:18,265 --> 00:18:20,934 How did the songs from the basement tapes come about? 224 00:18:21,017 --> 00:18:24,104 Well, you know, I decided this... 225 00:18:24,187 --> 00:18:26,147 I was gonna stay up in Woodstock for a while, 226 00:18:26,231 --> 00:18:30,443 so my band from the tour we had done together. 227 00:18:30,527 --> 00:18:33,863 Those guys all just came on up there. They liked it, too. 228 00:18:34,656 --> 00:18:37,617 And Robbie called me up one day and said, "what's happening?" 229 00:18:37,701 --> 00:18:39,661 You know. "What's happening?" 230 00:18:39,744 --> 00:18:41,621 And I said, "nothing." 231 00:18:41,705 --> 00:18:44,833 He said... well, he was in the mood for some nothing, too. 232 00:18:52,882 --> 00:18:56,636 We went up there and we found this ugly pink house 233 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,221 out in west saugerties, 234 00:18:58,305 --> 00:19:00,515 just in the outskirts of Woodstock. 235 00:19:00,598 --> 00:19:03,560 The rent was, like, $250 a month. 236 00:19:03,643 --> 00:19:05,353 And it sat in the middle of 100 acres, 237 00:19:05,437 --> 00:19:08,982 and it had a pond and mountains, and a lot of privacy. 238 00:19:19,868 --> 00:19:21,578 And it had a basement. 239 00:19:21,661 --> 00:19:25,290 Typical basement, filled with pipes and a concrete floor, washer, dryer. 240 00:19:25,373 --> 00:19:28,585 All of the things that you can't have 241 00:19:28,668 --> 00:19:31,338 if you're trying to record something. 242 00:19:31,421 --> 00:19:34,424 Dylan sees this and he says, "this is fantastic!" 243 00:19:34,507 --> 00:19:38,011 And I thought, "well, the hell with it. Nobody's ever gonna hear this thing." 244 00:19:45,018 --> 00:19:46,853 Who... was it Marx who said, 245 00:19:46,936 --> 00:19:50,565 you know, he talks so much about the means of production, 246 00:19:50,648 --> 00:19:52,942 who controlled the means of production, you know. 247 00:19:53,651 --> 00:19:55,445 This was the beginning of that. 248 00:19:55,528 --> 00:19:59,157 At this time, you gotta remember, nobody was doing this. 249 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,493 Back then, if you're gonna make a record, 250 00:20:01,576 --> 00:20:04,287 you went and made a record where they make records. 251 00:20:29,229 --> 00:20:32,023 There is something about going into somebody's studio 252 00:20:32,107 --> 00:20:34,401 that has a huge clock on the wall 253 00:20:34,484 --> 00:20:36,319 and the guys in the union, they're saying, 254 00:20:36,403 --> 00:20:38,446 "hey, it's about dinner break," and everything. 255 00:20:38,530 --> 00:20:43,118 As opposed to bringing the recording experience to you. 256 00:20:43,201 --> 00:20:45,370 It reverberated throughout the record industry. 257 00:20:45,453 --> 00:20:47,681 That's where you get the Beatles recording in the basement, 258 00:20:47,705 --> 00:20:49,145 where they're all facing each other. 259 00:20:49,207 --> 00:20:51,167 They were trying to imitate the basement tapes. 260 00:20:51,251 --> 00:20:53,044 And to this day, it resonates. 261 00:20:53,128 --> 00:20:56,548 That's recording formally where the artist feels at home. 262 00:21:16,693 --> 00:21:17,694 Yeah. 263 00:21:18,945 --> 00:21:20,089 That was one that I thought... 264 00:21:20,113 --> 00:21:22,073 Well, I had those ideas for verse and chorus, 265 00:21:22,157 --> 00:21:25,243 but then I also thought like, maybe we could write it together 266 00:21:25,326 --> 00:21:26,828 'cause it feels a bit unfinished. 267 00:21:26,911 --> 00:21:28,551 You know, the chorus lyrics feel a bit... 268 00:21:28,955 --> 00:21:30,373 You know, when you do the... 269 00:21:32,333 --> 00:21:33,543 Yeah. 270 00:21:33,626 --> 00:21:35,211 You wanna try going to a g? 271 00:21:39,716 --> 00:21:41,801 You know, sort of go to the g with a bit of... 272 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,221 That's great, yeah. 273 00:21:46,890 --> 00:21:48,766 I love all of these musicians. 274 00:21:48,850 --> 00:21:50,977 Not all of them know each other, 275 00:21:51,060 --> 00:21:53,438 and they're trusting us 276 00:21:53,521 --> 00:21:57,108 to make a safe place for them to have freedom. 277 00:21:57,734 --> 00:21:59,014 - All right. - I like that a lot. 278 00:22:31,351 --> 00:22:32,852 - Sweet. - Yeah. 279 00:22:32,936 --> 00:22:34,354 That's sweet, yeah. 280 00:22:34,437 --> 00:22:35,772 It's just kind of nice, 281 00:22:35,855 --> 00:22:37,148 it's conversational. 282 00:22:37,232 --> 00:22:38,983 It's like you're sort of... 283 00:22:39,067 --> 00:22:40,836 I love the fact that the first two don't rhyme 284 00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:42,362 'cause you're just sort of, like... 285 00:22:42,445 --> 00:22:44,256 And then the rhyme comes in, it just kind of like... 286 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,360 - Yeah, yeah. - The whole... 287 00:22:45,532 --> 00:22:47,092 So, you swap some of the lyrics, right? 288 00:22:47,158 --> 00:22:48,201 - Yeah. - Yeah. 289 00:22:48,284 --> 00:22:50,453 - Totally fucking around. - Okay, great. 290 00:22:50,537 --> 00:22:52,664 What we've been given the licence to do 291 00:22:52,747 --> 00:22:54,791 is make songs out of these 292 00:22:55,625 --> 00:22:57,502 unfinished texts. 293 00:23:01,130 --> 00:23:03,758 Whether they were lyrics, or sketches for lyrics, 294 00:23:04,634 --> 00:23:07,387 or games with words, 295 00:23:07,470 --> 00:23:09,013 or very clearly, 296 00:23:09,097 --> 00:23:12,058 you know, very identifiable, perfect lyrics, 297 00:23:12,141 --> 00:23:15,144 and we have everything in that range. 298 00:23:15,228 --> 00:23:17,397 And we are being given a huge Liberty. 299 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,899 And the licence to do, make music with it. 300 00:23:32,495 --> 00:23:34,289 I think I feel slightly awkward about 301 00:23:34,372 --> 00:23:35,975 the second line of the chorus being like, 302 00:23:35,999 --> 00:23:38,126 "that woman she's funny she takes all my money" 303 00:23:38,209 --> 00:23:39,752 I really think we should keep that in. 304 00:23:39,836 --> 00:23:41,421 - Do you? - I mean, it's so truthful. 305 00:23:42,380 --> 00:23:43,464 That's so common 306 00:23:43,548 --> 00:23:45,317 - in the old blues songs, you know. - Maybe, maybe. 307 00:23:45,341 --> 00:23:46,426 Yeah. 308 00:23:46,509 --> 00:23:48,303 This is a special opportunity 309 00:23:48,386 --> 00:23:51,806 to sort of have all this time with other creative people, 310 00:23:51,889 --> 00:23:55,560 and, like, everybody's bringing a very specific 311 00:23:55,643 --> 00:23:59,230 and defined idea of what songwriting is to the table. 312 00:24:08,698 --> 00:24:09,991 We can all harmonise on that. 313 00:24:11,868 --> 00:24:13,411 The next section is all on... 314 00:24:17,707 --> 00:24:18,833 It's just c. 315 00:24:19,584 --> 00:24:20,793 C, a, d. 316 00:24:21,919 --> 00:24:24,047 And then it goes... Then I can throw things in. 317 00:24:33,681 --> 00:24:35,058 And that's after the... 318 00:24:35,141 --> 00:24:36,851 - Just staying on the kerb? - Yeah. 319 00:24:36,976 --> 00:24:38,936 After "on the lawn," it goes back to... 320 00:24:39,020 --> 00:24:41,147 - It goes back to the top. Yeah, that is... - Okay. 321 00:24:41,230 --> 00:24:43,650 Oh, god. It's crazy being in Elvis's band. 322 00:24:43,733 --> 00:24:46,694 Their songs are hilarious 'cause there's so many chords in them 323 00:24:46,778 --> 00:24:48,112 and you know, and I... 324 00:24:48,196 --> 00:24:50,215 Songs that I write usually don't have that many chords in them 325 00:24:50,239 --> 00:24:53,034 and there's like 47 chords and you're like... 326 00:24:53,117 --> 00:24:54,720 You know, trying to figure out all these things. 327 00:24:54,744 --> 00:24:57,205 - What's the chord of the... - F sharp. 328 00:25:00,708 --> 00:25:02,543 I've forgotten my dank bomb chord. 329 00:25:04,796 --> 00:25:05,880 What was it? What is it? 330 00:25:05,963 --> 00:25:08,424 He's calling this... 331 00:25:08,508 --> 00:25:09,676 And he wrote it down. 332 00:25:09,759 --> 00:25:12,159 Because I don't know, like, the notes, or anything like that. 333 00:25:12,845 --> 00:25:14,430 Dank bomb. Dank bomb. 334 00:25:14,514 --> 00:25:16,557 And I love t bone's swagger, 335 00:25:16,641 --> 00:25:19,936 because he's like, "yeah, we'll just smash it out in two weeks, it'll be fine." 336 00:25:20,019 --> 00:25:21,747 And I'm like, "I've never made anything in two weeks. 337 00:25:21,771 --> 00:25:24,524 "Let alone a full record with people who we haven't played... 338 00:25:24,607 --> 00:25:26,407 "You know, we haven't played together before." 339 00:25:27,318 --> 00:25:28,778 Yeah, that's f sharp. 340 00:25:29,946 --> 00:25:33,658 How could we possibly not be a band and then all of a sudden be a band, 341 00:25:33,741 --> 00:25:35,427 and not only that but make a record in two weeks, 342 00:25:35,451 --> 00:25:36,452 it's just not... 343 00:25:36,536 --> 00:25:37,870 That's not how this happens. 344 00:25:37,954 --> 00:25:39,789 That's not how music works, we can't do that. 345 00:25:40,498 --> 00:25:42,291 What's that? A, a flat, g. 346 00:25:42,375 --> 00:25:44,085 G, a... back to a again. 347 00:25:44,585 --> 00:25:46,587 And then it does that weird... 348 00:25:47,296 --> 00:25:48,423 All right, so let's start 349 00:25:48,506 --> 00:25:49,906 - with the dank bomb. - Sorry, guys. 350 00:25:49,966 --> 00:25:52,277 Just one more thing, what is this sequence that happens here? 351 00:25:52,301 --> 00:25:54,470 - That's not a c7. That's a g. - A g. Okay. 352 00:25:57,056 --> 00:25:58,976 - All right. - I'm not a musician, I'm a drummer. 353 00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:01,140 - Here we go again. - So, where does dank bomb come? 354 00:26:02,687 --> 00:26:04,355 All right, let's try this one. 355 00:26:05,356 --> 00:26:07,859 We were just kind of, like, sitting around recording songs 356 00:26:07,942 --> 00:26:10,778 and before we went down into the basement 357 00:26:10,862 --> 00:26:12,697 to put it on tape. 358 00:26:12,780 --> 00:26:16,242 They are bumping their way through a song that they don't know 359 00:26:16,325 --> 00:26:19,328 or that doesn't really even exist until they are playing it for you. 360 00:26:36,262 --> 00:26:39,307 Dylan's written this song, except he hasn't really written it. 361 00:26:39,390 --> 00:26:43,186 And they just say, "well, to hell with it. We'll fill in the lines as we go." 362 00:26:47,023 --> 00:26:48,733 You know, you ain't goin' nowhere. 363 00:26:48,816 --> 00:26:51,486 They don't stick with the "head of lettuce" version. 364 00:26:51,569 --> 00:26:56,407 There is a great reward in experimenting in that kind of way. 365 00:26:56,491 --> 00:27:00,369 But you thought, "I could try anything." 366 00:27:00,453 --> 00:27:02,205 And it takes shape. 367 00:27:02,288 --> 00:27:05,458 You feel like, "I really like this." 368 00:27:38,324 --> 00:27:40,159 It was like, one song after another, 369 00:27:40,243 --> 00:27:42,328 you know, seldom make any changes. 370 00:27:42,411 --> 00:27:46,332 This is taking place in an atmosphere of intimacy, 371 00:27:46,415 --> 00:27:49,043 passion, fooling around. 372 00:27:49,126 --> 00:27:50,837 No one's ever gonna hear this stuff, 373 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,381 so it doesn't matter how badly we fuck it up, 374 00:27:53,464 --> 00:27:55,299 we can't fuck it up. 375 00:28:14,110 --> 00:28:16,028 To me, the most important part of this, 376 00:28:16,112 --> 00:28:18,406 and I think every one of the musicians has said this, too, 377 00:28:18,489 --> 00:28:21,534 is that we remain true to the spirit of the original basement tapes. 378 00:28:21,617 --> 00:28:24,537 Which is not that we are making some classic masterpiece, 379 00:28:24,620 --> 00:28:25,705 or something like that, 380 00:28:25,788 --> 00:28:28,416 even though they did that, they didn't set out to do that. 381 00:28:32,295 --> 00:28:33,629 You wanna try it? 382 00:28:33,713 --> 00:28:35,756 Yeah, let's just start recording, 383 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,776 and we'll just fuck around with it till we get it, all right? 384 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,219 Let's just do a whole one. Be free. Yes. 385 00:28:40,303 --> 00:28:41,888 Can we just do a verse once real quick 386 00:28:41,971 --> 00:28:43,180 so the, how could you... 387 00:28:43,264 --> 00:28:44,640 Do you mean a verse, or a... 388 00:28:44,765 --> 00:28:46,726 I mean, how could she reject me? 389 00:28:47,268 --> 00:28:48,728 Let's just see what happens. 390 00:28:48,811 --> 00:28:51,188 Yeah, we'll just do it straight through 140, okay? 391 00:28:51,272 --> 00:28:52,607 You ready? 392 00:28:52,690 --> 00:28:54,330 - 140, we're looking for 140, guys. - 140. 393 00:28:56,611 --> 00:28:58,654 - Record time. - One, two, three. 394 00:29:22,219 --> 00:29:24,722 The basement tapes for me, I guess was a realisation that 395 00:29:24,805 --> 00:29:27,224 people can be funny with their music or... 396 00:29:27,308 --> 00:29:28,851 And not take themselves too seriously. 397 00:30:10,977 --> 00:30:14,563 The fun of this for me, it was just how fast everything happens 398 00:30:14,647 --> 00:30:18,567 and quick and you're just barely learning the song and it's done. That's it. 399 00:30:21,821 --> 00:30:23,781 - Good job, guys. - Flawless. 400 00:30:25,533 --> 00:30:27,368 Zero mistakes. 401 00:30:28,536 --> 00:30:29,704 One take only, gents. 402 00:30:29,787 --> 00:30:31,872 Yeah, I mean, you know, let's restrict, 403 00:30:31,956 --> 00:30:33,541 or give ourselves restrictions. 404 00:30:34,583 --> 00:30:35,918 Until it goes wrong. 405 00:30:37,586 --> 00:30:39,005 I was enjoying it too much. 406 00:30:40,589 --> 00:30:42,526 As I listen to all these notes, it's so fucking cool 407 00:30:42,550 --> 00:30:44,802 'cause it is like the spirit of the originals... 408 00:30:44,885 --> 00:30:46,846 - Yeah. - But it's like you hear all the time, 409 00:30:46,929 --> 00:30:49,181 somebody's like, "and here we go. Fuck, no, we don't!" 410 00:30:51,017 --> 00:30:54,645 And here comes the chorus, and you're like, "okay, here we all go." It's like... 411 00:30:54,729 --> 00:30:57,356 I came back off that really intense tour, 412 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,193 and it was, I think it was a huge relief to get it together and write. 413 00:31:01,277 --> 00:31:02,445 And, 414 00:31:02,778 --> 00:31:06,449 in a very different way, I think it's a relief for us all to be here, 415 00:31:06,532 --> 00:31:08,868 and be able to write together and play together and... 416 00:31:09,452 --> 00:31:11,495 So I think, they probably really enjoyed it, 417 00:31:11,579 --> 00:31:15,583 so I think the central notion is that we gotta try and enjoy it somehow. 418 00:31:17,043 --> 00:31:19,879 - How boisterous are you boys gonna be? - Pretty boisterous. 419 00:31:19,962 --> 00:31:21,213 One, two, three! 420 00:31:58,375 --> 00:31:59,376 It's ham. 421 00:31:59,460 --> 00:32:00,540 - Ham? - Is that what it is? 422 00:32:00,586 --> 00:32:01,629 - It's ham. - Really? 423 00:32:01,712 --> 00:32:03,432 - It's ham, okay. Let's do it again. - Yeah. 424 00:32:03,589 --> 00:32:05,883 What the fuck is going on? 425 00:32:05,966 --> 00:32:08,028 Should we just do that one? We didn't get the word right. 426 00:32:08,052 --> 00:32:10,054 - Is that okay? - Does that matter, really? 427 00:32:11,388 --> 00:32:12,932 Okay, good. Cool. 428 00:32:13,015 --> 00:32:15,559 This is exactly the thing we were looking for. 429 00:32:15,643 --> 00:32:16,727 All right. 430 00:32:17,311 --> 00:32:19,855 But it was enthusiastically not the right word. 431 00:32:22,566 --> 00:32:25,945 T bone has such a graceful way of motivating people. 432 00:32:26,028 --> 00:32:29,115 He's been so good at keeping all of us smiling, 433 00:32:29,198 --> 00:32:30,991 all of us laughing, 434 00:32:31,075 --> 00:32:32,618 and all of us proud and inspired. 435 00:32:33,410 --> 00:32:35,496 T bone, he's like a master musician. 436 00:32:35,579 --> 00:32:39,083 Who else could make sense of all these scraps of paper? 437 00:32:39,834 --> 00:32:41,836 He knows song writing. He knows performing. 438 00:32:41,919 --> 00:32:46,173 No part of making music that t bone's not familiar with and experienced, 439 00:32:46,257 --> 00:32:49,760 and he knows performers that can perform all types of music, 440 00:32:55,349 --> 00:32:58,102 I like to think of it as each member of this band 441 00:32:58,185 --> 00:32:59,385 bringing a different strength, 442 00:32:59,436 --> 00:33:01,996 a different quality that you're not gonna find in the other four. 443 00:33:03,399 --> 00:33:06,068 Marcus mumford, he won album of the year, 444 00:33:06,152 --> 00:33:08,654 he plays these huge stadiums. 445 00:33:08,737 --> 00:33:12,283 The power that he has in connection to what resonates with people 446 00:33:12,366 --> 00:33:14,577 is pretty unmatched. 447 00:33:32,887 --> 00:33:34,972 With her background in more of a bluegrass, 448 00:33:35,055 --> 00:33:37,558 or more of a traditional folk world, 449 00:33:37,641 --> 00:33:40,519 that's going to set Rhiannon's songs apart in a big way, 450 00:33:40,603 --> 00:33:42,688 and also the way Rhiannon sings is something 451 00:33:42,771 --> 00:33:45,149 that few people on earth can do. 452 00:34:21,185 --> 00:34:23,520 A guy like Jim James, I feel like he's not afraid 453 00:34:23,604 --> 00:34:26,398 to work up a soundscape 454 00:34:26,482 --> 00:34:28,651 to make sure it's always weird enough. 455 00:34:33,489 --> 00:34:36,367 Not only has Jim done that within my morning jacket, 456 00:34:36,450 --> 00:34:38,953 but he also has a lot of cool solo releases. 457 00:34:39,036 --> 00:34:41,664 Really, every time he's involved with something 458 00:34:41,747 --> 00:34:43,624 it always ends up being very special. 459 00:34:49,255 --> 00:34:50,547 And then Elvis costello 460 00:34:50,631 --> 00:34:54,093 who's one of the most accomplished songwriters of all time. 461 00:34:54,176 --> 00:34:55,570 He's truly one of the heavyweights. 462 00:34:55,594 --> 00:34:59,390 I feel like few guys have had such lasting careers. 463 00:35:00,015 --> 00:35:03,978 Having them in a situation like this, I feel like it's gonna be essential. 464 00:35:05,271 --> 00:35:09,233 It's so fun to see how different each of our song writing styles are. 465 00:35:09,316 --> 00:35:12,611 And it's like being inside of a rainbow or something. 466 00:35:12,695 --> 00:35:15,030 Seeing all the... how it works. 467 00:35:15,114 --> 00:35:16,714 You know, it's like seeing the magician. 468 00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:19,576 How does the magician really pull the rabbit out of the hat? 469 00:35:19,827 --> 00:35:22,079 There are three or four great songs people have written. 470 00:35:22,162 --> 00:35:23,932 You know, three or four people who've written versions. 471 00:35:23,956 --> 00:35:26,000 - Right. - But what I wanna do is like this. 472 00:35:26,083 --> 00:35:27,501 We can do two or three versions 473 00:35:27,584 --> 00:35:30,629 'cause there's some of them I wanna do two or three versions of... 474 00:35:30,713 --> 00:35:33,882 I haven't listened extensively 'cause I wanted to 475 00:35:33,966 --> 00:35:37,219 approach it very much like they did in the first place which is... 476 00:35:38,220 --> 00:35:39,305 I wanna just come in 477 00:35:39,388 --> 00:35:41,515 - without a lot of preconceived ideas. - Yeah. 478 00:35:42,558 --> 00:35:45,894 I used to try to make everything my idea. I used to arrange everything. 479 00:35:45,978 --> 00:35:48,063 You know, every note, every drum note. 480 00:35:49,064 --> 00:35:52,026 This will be the complete opposite of that, right? 481 00:35:52,860 --> 00:35:56,780 The fun of it is seeing how two people interpret the same lyric. 482 00:35:56,864 --> 00:35:58,198 And what choices they make. 483 00:35:58,282 --> 00:36:01,702 One, two... one, two, three. 484 00:36:48,582 --> 00:36:50,125 We were all given the same lyrics 485 00:36:50,209 --> 00:36:53,379 and we all heard such different things from those lyrics. 486 00:36:53,462 --> 00:36:56,465 And now that we've been talking about, like, what is the notion of a song? 487 00:36:56,548 --> 00:36:57,549 What is a song? 488 00:36:57,633 --> 00:36:59,301 The infinite possibility of a song. 489 00:36:59,385 --> 00:37:01,804 I mean, a song is limitless. 490 00:39:15,479 --> 00:39:16,688 Nice one. 491 00:39:16,772 --> 00:39:18,666 We'd definitely get lost in that thing, in the ups and downs. 492 00:39:18,690 --> 00:39:21,318 - You'd probably get lost in the river. - Yeah. 493 00:39:21,401 --> 00:39:23,737 That was for sure lost. No doubt about that. 494 00:39:26,156 --> 00:39:28,742 Yeah, well, 'cause I was like, "I'm playing over a g-chord. 495 00:39:28,825 --> 00:39:30,428 "No, I'm actually probably playing over a d-chord." 496 00:39:30,452 --> 00:39:32,579 So I start sounding like shit because... 497 00:39:32,663 --> 00:39:34,289 What'd you think? Should we... 498 00:39:34,373 --> 00:39:35,999 Let's just out another ending. 499 00:39:36,625 --> 00:39:37,751 Some songs work great 500 00:39:37,834 --> 00:39:42,005 if everybody's messy and it's all a big pile of chaos. 501 00:39:42,089 --> 00:39:44,633 And other songs, just don't work that way. 502 00:39:44,716 --> 00:39:48,762 And they deserve to be whittled on or carved out a little bit more. 503 00:39:48,845 --> 00:39:52,849 When you're messing with eternity, it's really tempting to go fix everything. 504 00:39:52,933 --> 00:39:54,893 You know, and to make everything perfect. 505 00:39:54,977 --> 00:39:56,019 So when, 506 00:39:56,103 --> 00:39:59,648 when the main parts of the song are going, it'd be great if it was moving more, you know. 507 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,486 But on the little Bridges it'd be cool if you guys were kinda circling. 508 00:40:04,570 --> 00:40:06,530 - Okay, yeah, yeah. - Circling with no emotion 509 00:40:06,613 --> 00:40:07,823 and when the song takes off... 510 00:40:07,906 --> 00:40:09,116 You mean this? F-sharp. 511 00:40:14,913 --> 00:40:16,582 Yeah, yeah. 512 00:40:17,583 --> 00:40:19,167 So maybe just a little faster still. 513 00:40:20,335 --> 00:40:21,503 Just a little faster. 514 00:40:25,882 --> 00:40:29,052 Maybe a couple more snares, like a... Boom, crack, boom. 515 00:40:29,136 --> 00:40:31,805 Crack, crack, boom, crack, boom, crack... 516 00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:58,915 Yeah, if you could sing the third line 517 00:40:58,999 --> 00:41:01,126 - in unison with me, maybe? - Sure. 518 00:41:01,209 --> 00:41:03,378 'Cause I go up kinda high, but I can't really hit it. 519 00:41:03,462 --> 00:41:04,504 Yeah, you can. 520 00:41:04,588 --> 00:41:07,633 Could you also sing the normal lines with me just in unison, 521 00:41:07,716 --> 00:41:09,468 when you're not singing the Harmony? 522 00:41:12,054 --> 00:41:13,347 Just sing it in unison. 523 00:41:15,265 --> 00:41:16,993 - Is this all right? - Yeah, think it's good. Yeah. 524 00:41:17,017 --> 00:41:18,769 - It's nice. - You can say if you don't. 525 00:41:18,852 --> 00:41:21,229 No, I would. Well, I'll mute it anyway. 526 00:41:22,022 --> 00:41:23,231 No, I like it. 527 00:41:27,444 --> 00:41:28,487 Goddamn. 528 00:41:29,821 --> 00:41:32,366 - What is that buzz? - Your guitar. 529 00:41:32,449 --> 00:41:34,159 - Me? What an asshole. - Yeah. 530 00:41:35,369 --> 00:41:36,495 Okay, let's go. 531 00:41:37,371 --> 00:41:38,455 - You on? - Yeah. 532 00:41:39,247 --> 00:41:40,290 One, two. 533 00:43:03,165 --> 00:43:05,017 I knew there were some things that were prepared 534 00:43:05,041 --> 00:43:08,253 but I was unprepared for the amount of preparedness 535 00:43:08,336 --> 00:43:12,174 that like Taylor and Elvis and Jim did. 536 00:43:44,706 --> 00:43:47,167 I didn't know if people were gonna have written 537 00:43:47,250 --> 00:43:48,668 six, seven, eight, 10 songs. 538 00:43:48,752 --> 00:43:50,462 I was kinda like, "whoa." 539 00:43:50,545 --> 00:43:53,548 This is... I was a little taken aback by that. 540 00:44:23,745 --> 00:44:25,330 I'm a baby songwriter. 541 00:44:25,413 --> 00:44:27,499 I'm really looking foward to just learning a lot. 542 00:44:27,582 --> 00:44:30,710 Like, just sort of, bringing a novice view 543 00:44:30,794 --> 00:44:32,730 because I've written a few. You know, I've written some songs 544 00:44:32,754 --> 00:44:34,565 but like compared to, you know, some of these guys, 545 00:44:34,589 --> 00:44:36,069 I haven't really written a whole lot. 546 00:44:58,405 --> 00:45:00,782 So I was thinking of putting that in the middle, you know? 547 00:45:00,866 --> 00:45:02,951 Sort of just transitioning to this, 548 00:45:03,034 --> 00:45:06,121 and then transitioning back to the, you know, as it is in the lyrics. 549 00:45:07,122 --> 00:45:08,874 That's one of the best lyrics 550 00:45:08,957 --> 00:45:09,976 - in the whole pile. - Yeah. 551 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,376 Yeah, I'm sure... 552 00:45:11,459 --> 00:45:13,628 I didn't write... Did you write something for it? 553 00:45:13,712 --> 00:45:15,672 - I did, yeah. - It's such a great song. 554 00:45:18,258 --> 00:45:19,694 - Yeah. - Just so we can find another groove. 555 00:45:19,718 --> 00:45:22,137 What kind of arrangement do you have for it? 556 00:45:22,220 --> 00:45:24,389 Just, I mean, 557 00:45:25,807 --> 00:45:27,767 kinda going, just going... 558 00:45:27,851 --> 00:45:30,729 Figuring out which verses to, sort of, do together, 559 00:45:30,812 --> 00:45:32,522 and then transitioning to that. 560 00:45:32,606 --> 00:45:34,232 Just sort of this... 561 00:45:34,316 --> 00:45:37,360 You know, not really a... This kinda thing, but just kinda like... 562 00:45:37,444 --> 00:45:40,071 You know, but that's where I'm coming from. 563 00:45:40,155 --> 00:45:41,489 And instrumentation? 564 00:45:42,616 --> 00:45:44,618 What if you played it like that by yourself, 565 00:45:44,701 --> 00:45:47,245 and we all gathered around a microphone, just one microphone 566 00:45:47,329 --> 00:45:48,747 and didn't do anything at all. 567 00:45:51,333 --> 00:45:53,418 And you got the sound of that. Like, that was... 568 00:45:54,669 --> 00:45:57,505 Like you just got our breath, listening. 569 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,175 That'd be pretty cool. 570 00:47:34,769 --> 00:47:36,187 When I heard about the project 571 00:47:36,271 --> 00:47:39,315 and the idea of these folks going in and just gonna... 572 00:47:39,399 --> 00:47:40,543 You know, and to see what happens. 573 00:47:40,567 --> 00:47:42,407 There's a lot of magic that can happen in that. 574 00:47:43,069 --> 00:47:46,698 That's one of the reasons why I didn't do a lot of preparatory stuff. 575 00:47:46,781 --> 00:47:49,242 That idea of what's happening right now 576 00:47:49,325 --> 00:47:52,120 you know, that's what attracted me, 577 00:47:52,203 --> 00:47:55,331 you know, more than anything to the project, was that idea. 578 00:48:10,847 --> 00:48:12,307 Nice one. 579 00:48:12,932 --> 00:48:15,977 I mean, if... I'm very hyper sensitive 580 00:48:16,061 --> 00:48:17,821 to any kind of out of tune-ness in my voice, 581 00:48:17,854 --> 00:48:20,940 but, it's not always noticeable to... 582 00:48:21,024 --> 00:48:23,985 Some of the... 'Cause my voice is always out of tune and your... 583 00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:27,363 Some of the times you went out of tune, it almost sounded intentional. 584 00:48:27,447 --> 00:48:30,051 It almost sounded like you were doing some kind of fucked up improv. 585 00:48:30,075 --> 00:48:31,743 Yeah, the key there is almost, though. 586 00:48:32,869 --> 00:48:35,705 Yeah, well, now it sounded definitely intentional. 587 00:48:36,122 --> 00:48:40,752 Certainly, self-consciousness ends the creative process, you know? 588 00:48:40,835 --> 00:48:44,798 My job is to not let people get self-conscious in the first place. 589 00:48:44,881 --> 00:48:48,927 And not feel like someone else is gonna take it away 590 00:48:49,010 --> 00:48:53,098 or try to, you know, try to get ahead of them. 591 00:48:53,556 --> 00:48:56,184 And that's a beautiful thing about collaborating. 592 00:49:24,212 --> 00:49:27,966 When I was preparing, I was just going as far out as I could. 593 00:49:28,049 --> 00:49:31,594 It was like, "okay, I have to have as much stuff prepared as I can." 594 00:49:31,678 --> 00:49:34,180 I sort of, feel like, I just... I gotta come correct 595 00:49:34,264 --> 00:49:35,807 because I'm lucky to be in the room. 596 00:49:35,890 --> 00:49:39,269 We're all lucky to be in the room. But I'm especially lucky to be in the room. 597 00:50:02,083 --> 00:50:04,544 I'm aware of the fact that... 598 00:50:04,627 --> 00:50:06,438 You know, like even in a lot of the press stuff about it, 599 00:50:06,462 --> 00:50:11,009 it's like, "Elvis costello, Marcus mumford, Jim James, t bone Burnett, 600 00:50:11,092 --> 00:50:13,761 "and this guy from this band dawes in it." 601 00:50:13,845 --> 00:50:15,096 Like it's... and I get it. 602 00:50:19,851 --> 00:50:23,271 I realise that that's how this shit works. And that's okay. 603 00:50:23,354 --> 00:50:27,650 But obviously, as anyone could imagine that does create a certain level of pressure. 604 00:51:31,339 --> 00:51:33,341 - G... g-minor. - All right. 605 00:51:33,675 --> 00:51:36,803 The essence of the basement tapes to me, is collaborative. 606 00:51:36,886 --> 00:51:39,806 I was under the impression that's how this was gonna work. 607 00:51:39,889 --> 00:51:42,475 But then I've heard people have been secretly scribbling away. 608 00:51:43,184 --> 00:51:45,019 Writing mega hits. 609 00:52:28,521 --> 00:52:30,440 It's been a big challenge to keep writing. 610 00:52:30,940 --> 00:52:33,651 'Cause I'm not like Jim or Elvis who came in, or Taylor 611 00:52:33,735 --> 00:52:37,989 who came in with pretty much 20 fully formed demos. 612 00:52:38,072 --> 00:52:42,035 I came in with one song and one riff. 613 00:52:43,661 --> 00:52:47,957 And so I'm falling behind a bit in terms of how many songs I've done, I think. 614 00:53:06,517 --> 00:53:08,019 It's almost like a game. 615 00:53:08,102 --> 00:53:11,105 It's almost like he passed the hat around and everyone has to write a song. 616 00:53:11,189 --> 00:53:13,733 I've never written like that before. 617 00:53:13,816 --> 00:53:15,693 I mean for me, things come quite sporadically. 618 00:53:15,777 --> 00:53:17,820 So I write a song every six months 619 00:53:17,904 --> 00:53:20,865 rather than having to write, like, a song a day. 620 00:54:29,851 --> 00:54:32,186 I'm really interested in the collaborative process. 621 00:54:32,270 --> 00:54:34,498 What it would be like to just kinda work with other people 622 00:54:34,522 --> 00:54:36,691 and say, you know, "hey, let's just... 623 00:54:36,774 --> 00:54:39,002 "You and me, just take this and just like make something." 624 00:54:39,026 --> 00:54:41,446 You know, I think there's a lot of potential in that. 625 00:54:41,529 --> 00:54:44,490 It's just a matter of how it's gonna happen. 626 00:54:48,119 --> 00:54:50,872 Well, sometime, maybe later, 627 00:54:50,955 --> 00:54:53,624 I've got a chorus and no song. 628 00:54:53,708 --> 00:54:54,709 Oh, sick. 629 00:54:54,792 --> 00:54:56,794 So, you know, I would love some help with that. 630 00:54:56,878 --> 00:54:58,838 - Hell, yeah. - What key is it? Do you know? 631 00:54:58,921 --> 00:55:00,923 - Let me see. - Do you play it on the guitar? 632 00:55:01,632 --> 00:55:05,803 No, I just... Say, I did a chord progression vocally 633 00:55:05,887 --> 00:55:08,389 - and then put the line on top. - Sweet. Let's do it. 634 00:55:08,806 --> 00:55:10,349 Yeah, it just goes... 635 00:55:32,914 --> 00:55:34,248 - Well, that's it. - Cool. 636 00:55:34,832 --> 00:55:37,001 Yeah, try to sing it over there. Sing it. 637 00:56:16,290 --> 00:56:20,711 Well, you know, if we do 23 more songs, we hit 50, right? 638 00:56:20,795 --> 00:56:22,046 - Really? - Yeah. 639 00:56:22,129 --> 00:56:24,215 We've done 27. We've done 27. 640 00:56:24,298 --> 00:56:25,758 - Is that right? - Yeah. 641 00:56:30,972 --> 00:56:33,432 We've got a few where we have already three, 642 00:56:33,516 --> 00:56:35,226 if not four versions, potentially. 643 00:56:35,309 --> 00:56:37,895 If we had endless amounts of time, we'd probably record them all, 644 00:56:37,979 --> 00:56:42,400 but we are sort of rapidly having to come to some sort of agreement. 645 00:56:42,483 --> 00:56:45,111 Certain takes on songs might not be heard 646 00:56:45,194 --> 00:56:47,071 during these sessions, you know? 647 00:56:47,154 --> 00:56:48,489 Lost on the river, of course, 648 00:56:48,573 --> 00:56:51,909 has brought out lots of different types of songs. 649 00:57:00,376 --> 00:57:01,586 Yeah! 650 00:57:04,088 --> 00:57:05,423 And then a b-major. 651 00:57:07,174 --> 00:57:08,175 Whatever you did there. 652 00:57:13,347 --> 00:57:15,600 No. The... no, no. Not that one. 653 00:57:15,683 --> 00:57:16,952 I don't know the fucking chords! 654 00:57:16,976 --> 00:57:19,103 But... shit! 655 00:57:19,186 --> 00:57:22,064 Sorry. I just, like, know when I hear it. Wish I could play. 656 00:57:22,148 --> 00:57:24,275 I got... what's that? 657 00:57:24,358 --> 00:57:26,027 - B-minor. - There! It goes there! 658 00:57:37,496 --> 00:57:39,373 - Did I get the chord? - Yeah, yeah. 659 00:57:39,457 --> 00:57:42,460 I'm just interested, you know, where Taylor's going. 660 00:57:42,543 --> 00:57:44,303 And then where Marcus goes, and where I went. 661 00:57:44,378 --> 00:57:47,048 We're all very different places. 662 00:57:47,548 --> 00:57:50,217 You know, it was just like, "that's what I was hoping for." 663 00:57:56,599 --> 00:57:58,017 Think we almost have one. 664 00:57:58,100 --> 00:57:59,560 - Really? - Wanna hear it? 665 00:57:59,644 --> 00:58:00,645 Yeah. I do. 666 00:58:02,063 --> 00:58:03,981 We're gonna go from the slow one? 667 00:58:04,065 --> 00:58:05,316 So just, just do that verse... 668 00:58:05,399 --> 00:58:07,693 And so after that... so that we're clear... 669 00:58:07,777 --> 00:58:10,237 Right after that we go straight to a-minor, right? 670 00:58:11,113 --> 00:58:12,740 No. We go to e-minor. 671 00:58:15,993 --> 00:58:17,578 Yeah. 672 00:58:17,662 --> 00:58:19,789 - Cool. - You wanna do that first? 673 00:58:19,872 --> 00:58:22,833 Well, no, I just wanna do it all a bit but... 674 00:58:22,917 --> 00:58:24,335 I'm just trying... 675 00:58:24,418 --> 00:58:26,170 - I'm going through everything. - Yeah. 676 00:58:26,253 --> 00:58:29,006 I wanna do some titles we haven't done yet. 677 00:58:29,090 --> 00:58:32,343 - This is like the third version of this. - But we have another one. 678 00:58:32,426 --> 00:58:34,762 I understand that there's a record, 679 00:58:34,845 --> 00:58:37,324 you know, and I understand that there's all these different songs, 680 00:58:37,348 --> 00:58:41,310 and I know that, like, t bone's got an incredibly difficultjob. 681 00:58:41,394 --> 00:58:44,397 I've had now, several different recording experiences 682 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,607 and it just, like, really highlights. 683 00:58:46,691 --> 00:58:49,735 People try to emulate that whole idea of the basement tapes, 684 00:58:49,819 --> 00:58:51,713 you know, gettin' a house, and puttin' people in it, 685 00:58:51,737 --> 00:58:54,907 and just kinda, just chilling and making a record. 686 00:58:54,990 --> 00:58:58,327 I mean, I think the key 687 00:58:58,411 --> 00:59:00,830 more than house, being together, 688 00:59:00,913 --> 00:59:03,153 is that they didn't think anybody was gonna listen to it. 689 00:59:03,332 --> 00:59:07,962 So automatically, if you're making a recording to be heard 690 00:59:08,045 --> 00:59:10,881 that changes the whole energy. 691 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,721 - Anyway... - That's awesome, man. 692 00:59:16,804 --> 00:59:18,013 Thank you... 693 00:59:18,097 --> 00:59:22,226 No, no. That was worth the price of admission right there. 694 00:59:22,309 --> 00:59:25,563 That's what I came here for. Yeah. 695 00:59:46,917 --> 00:59:51,589 I think the basement tapes from '67 were an amazing inspiration for this. 696 00:59:52,506 --> 00:59:55,843 But I don't think similar artists go much further than that. 697 01:00:06,187 --> 01:00:08,898 Woodstock was a, place where, 698 01:00:08,981 --> 01:00:11,192 you could kind of go get your thoughts together. 699 01:00:17,907 --> 01:00:19,617 It was an artist colony, 700 01:00:19,700 --> 01:00:22,787 there were plenty of painters who lived in that area. 701 01:00:22,870 --> 01:00:24,622 But very few musicians. 702 01:00:24,705 --> 01:00:28,125 We certainly knew of nobody up there playing any music. 703 01:00:28,209 --> 01:00:32,505 Later there was, but when we were up there middle 60's 704 01:00:32,588 --> 01:00:35,341 we were pretty much by ourselves. 705 01:00:35,424 --> 01:00:38,803 Should Bob Dylan have found himself walking around so many major cities 706 01:00:38,886 --> 01:00:41,806 he would have been swamped within moments. 707 01:00:41,889 --> 01:00:44,975 The only people who know he's up there and know where he is 708 01:00:45,059 --> 01:00:47,520 are friends and confidants. No one else knows. 709 01:00:48,395 --> 01:00:50,231 He can just be himself. Just Bob. 710 01:01:03,244 --> 01:01:05,246 The events of the day, they were just happening 711 01:01:05,329 --> 01:01:06,807 and they seemed to be a million miles away. 712 01:01:06,831 --> 01:01:09,750 We weren't really participating in any of that stuff. 713 01:01:09,834 --> 01:01:11,919 Wherever everybody else was going 714 01:01:12,002 --> 01:01:14,338 that's the place that we weren't interested in. 715 01:01:14,421 --> 01:01:19,343 It looked like, we were rebelling against the rebellion. 716 01:01:19,426 --> 01:01:22,179 It was the summer of love 717 01:01:22,263 --> 01:01:24,014 but, we weren't there, so, 718 01:01:24,098 --> 01:01:27,184 you know, we did our thing, we wrote, million dollar bash, 719 01:01:27,268 --> 01:01:29,937 you know, to go along with the summer of love. 720 01:01:47,121 --> 01:01:50,541 Bob had been coming every day, for you know, six, seven days a week. 721 01:01:50,624 --> 01:01:52,209 He'd show up around noon, 722 01:01:52,293 --> 01:01:54,169 if we were sleeping he'd get us up 723 01:01:54,253 --> 01:01:56,714 he'd make noise, you know, make some coffee. 724 01:01:56,797 --> 01:01:59,550 It was such a great feeling to have a place, 725 01:01:59,633 --> 01:02:03,470 you know, where everybody could come, you didn't have to make music. 726 01:02:03,554 --> 01:02:06,473 And it just felt good to have, you know, the club house. 727 01:02:15,482 --> 01:02:20,362 There's like a couple of really crazy distortions that I've had my whole life 728 01:02:20,446 --> 01:02:21,906 about being in a band. 729 01:02:21,989 --> 01:02:25,784 One was from growing up watching the monkees' television show. 730 01:02:25,868 --> 01:02:28,245 And I thought that bands lived together 731 01:02:28,329 --> 01:02:30,789 and, you know, the desire was to just 732 01:02:30,873 --> 01:02:35,586 not have to work, and create together and have mad-cap adventures. 733 01:02:35,669 --> 01:02:39,006 And the basement tapes, really played into that. 734 01:02:44,428 --> 01:02:46,722 It allowed us some freedom 735 01:02:46,805 --> 01:02:50,559 to figure out who an artist really is. 736 01:02:50,643 --> 01:02:54,605 It's strange to think of big pink as Eden, 737 01:02:54,688 --> 01:02:56,231 but, maybe, maybe it was. 738 01:03:01,987 --> 01:03:03,948 Is Marcus writing one? Is that what he's doing? 739 01:03:04,031 --> 01:03:06,450 - He's outside writing. - Just leave him be. 740 01:03:06,533 --> 01:03:08,613 Yeah, well, leave him be then, maybe he'll come back. 741 01:03:11,914 --> 01:03:14,625 T bone was like, "we'll just go round and we'll do a song each." 742 01:03:14,708 --> 01:03:17,878 And I was like, "shit, I haven't got any songs at all." 743 01:03:17,962 --> 01:03:22,257 So I really felt like urgency to go upstairs and write something. 744 01:03:23,384 --> 01:03:25,970 These guys are such prolific writers and I'm not really. 745 01:03:26,053 --> 01:03:28,764 I, like, edit before, you know, while I'm writing 746 01:03:28,847 --> 01:03:31,350 so much that I don't have a lot of output. 747 01:03:31,433 --> 01:03:32,702 Well should we play this one anyway, 748 01:03:32,726 --> 01:03:33,978 - 'cause, I mean. Yeah? - Yeah. 749 01:03:34,061 --> 01:03:36,063 And then we've got to get to it sometime, I mean... 750 01:03:43,028 --> 01:03:46,490 Yeah, this'll teach him to go outside and write a song. 751 01:03:46,573 --> 01:03:47,825 Yeah. 752 01:03:51,912 --> 01:03:52,913 Here he is. 753 01:03:52,997 --> 01:03:55,833 He's done already, he's all right, written a hit. 754 01:03:55,916 --> 01:03:57,835 Let's see if he's got a... got a tune. 755 01:04:00,254 --> 01:04:01,463 It's all finished, right? 756 01:04:02,881 --> 01:04:06,677 Since it ain't, should we leave you alone to keep working on it? 757 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,238 Yeah, I mean, I don't want to waste people's time 758 01:04:08,262 --> 01:04:09,782 'cause it may not lead anywhere, so... 759 01:04:09,888 --> 01:04:11,056 - Okay. - Okay. 760 01:04:13,642 --> 01:04:15,745 - We're not playing it. - He's not... yeah, he's not ready. 761 01:04:15,769 --> 01:04:17,455 Are we doing another song or are we calling it? 762 01:04:17,479 --> 01:04:18,772 We're going home. 763 01:04:18,856 --> 01:04:21,900 - All right, Elvis, we'll see you. - We'll see you tomorrow, right, boys. 764 01:04:50,345 --> 01:04:53,015 A lot of the stuff I write I just don't like at all. 765 01:04:53,098 --> 01:04:57,394 So then finding stuff that I like, normally takes six months. 766 01:04:57,478 --> 01:05:01,523 And here, I know that in the next 24 hours I'm gonna have to write a song. 767 01:05:07,988 --> 01:05:10,574 Everybody's got their insecurities and vanities 768 01:05:10,657 --> 01:05:13,827 and the things where they feel they are uneasy and you know. 769 01:05:13,911 --> 01:05:16,955 And I appreciate that Marcus is very self-critical, 770 01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:18,892 like, he wouldn't let us play one of the songs. 771 01:05:18,916 --> 01:05:21,335 He doesn't think it's good enough. I'm astounded. 772 01:05:21,835 --> 01:05:26,006 I've learnt that there is something to be had for... 773 01:05:26,090 --> 01:05:28,592 Having that period and then recognising 774 01:05:28,675 --> 01:05:31,011 that you can't actually sustain that forever. 775 01:05:58,247 --> 01:06:00,207 I think it's good to have a timeframe 776 01:06:00,290 --> 01:06:02,835 where you have to do it and it's kind of the older way. 777 01:06:02,918 --> 01:06:06,672 I know, you know, plenty of songwriters who really treat it as a, sort of, job, 778 01:06:06,755 --> 01:06:08,757 like, you sit down and you write. 779 01:06:08,841 --> 01:06:11,301 I think you'll look at this stuff, 780 01:06:11,385 --> 01:06:14,304 and you think, "well, this is a man who was at work," 781 01:06:14,388 --> 01:06:15,722 like he was at the office. 782 01:06:16,557 --> 01:06:18,725 I had nothing else to do, so 783 01:06:19,935 --> 01:06:21,645 I started writing a bunch of songs. 784 01:06:24,523 --> 01:06:27,151 I'd write them in longhand and I'd write them on the typewriter. 785 01:06:27,234 --> 01:06:30,571 Whatever was handy, pencil, pen, typewriter. 786 01:06:35,784 --> 01:06:38,495 Bob sat at the typewriter and write a letter, 787 01:06:38,579 --> 01:06:40,497 you know, and not mail it. 788 01:06:40,581 --> 01:06:44,042 I never saw a man write so many letters to himself in my life. 789 01:06:47,462 --> 01:06:51,842 Maybe 150 songs were composed in about a seven or eight month period. 790 01:06:51,925 --> 01:06:53,510 And that is pretty mind boggling 791 01:06:53,594 --> 01:06:56,763 when you consider, nothing officially came out at the time. 792 01:07:08,483 --> 01:07:10,235 How do we go about writing those songs? 793 01:07:10,319 --> 01:07:13,197 I'd know I wasn't going to write anything about myself. 794 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:14,716 I didn't have nothing to say about myself 795 01:07:14,740 --> 01:07:17,534 that I figure anybody else would be interested in anyway. 796 01:07:17,618 --> 01:07:20,204 You kind of look for ideas, and the TV would be on, 797 01:07:20,287 --> 01:07:24,333 you know, like, as the world turns or dark shadows or something and... 798 01:07:24,416 --> 01:07:28,670 Just any old thing would create a beginning to a song. 799 01:07:28,754 --> 01:07:31,924 Names out of phonebooks and things. 800 01:07:32,007 --> 01:07:34,468 When China first exploded that hydrogen bomb, 801 01:07:34,551 --> 01:07:37,888 that just, kind of flashed across the headlines in newspapers, 802 01:07:37,971 --> 01:07:41,141 so, you know, we just go in and write tears of rage. 803 01:07:41,850 --> 01:07:43,393 Things were just happening, you know. 804 01:07:43,477 --> 01:07:44,662 There was riots in the street. 805 01:07:44,686 --> 01:07:47,606 They were... they were rioting in Rochester, New York 806 01:07:47,689 --> 01:07:49,691 and that was, wasn't that far away, 807 01:07:49,775 --> 01:07:51,777 so we write too much of nothing. 808 01:07:51,860 --> 01:07:53,904 And just one thing led to another, you know. 809 01:07:53,987 --> 01:07:55,155 The human heart. 810 01:07:56,156 --> 01:07:59,993 That's the first time anybody'd ever heard of a human heart being transplanted. 811 01:08:00,535 --> 01:08:02,955 That was incredible. It was a real breakthrough. 812 01:08:03,038 --> 01:08:04,957 So we came up with a song 813 01:08:06,500 --> 01:08:09,380 and then, after we got the lyrics down, we took the song to the basement. 814 01:08:10,796 --> 01:08:11,797 Take three. 815 01:08:14,716 --> 01:08:15,717 Three. 816 01:08:21,932 --> 01:08:23,725 It's those, but with that change on. 817 01:08:23,809 --> 01:08:26,103 It's "house," instead of "living room" there. 818 01:08:26,186 --> 01:08:28,814 - Okay. - And then, I think this last verse, 819 01:08:28,897 --> 01:08:30,357 if you're happy with that. 820 01:08:31,817 --> 01:08:32,877 That one. Gypsy... what does it say? 821 01:08:32,901 --> 01:08:34,611 "Gypsy woman, you know every place I go, 822 01:08:34,695 --> 01:08:37,456 "even a thousand miles away from home." It's stealing things from his. 823 01:08:37,531 --> 01:08:38,967 - Is that all right? - Yes, of course. 824 01:08:38,991 --> 01:08:40,325 - Okay. - Hey. 825 01:08:40,409 --> 01:08:41,952 Johnny, you can plug into this amp. 826 01:08:42,035 --> 01:08:43,287 All right. 827 01:08:44,788 --> 01:08:46,348 What's... what's the title of the song? 828 01:08:46,873 --> 01:08:48,375 - Kansas City. - Kansas City. 829 01:08:50,168 --> 01:08:51,771 What? I haven't even heard the song, yet. 830 01:08:51,795 --> 01:08:53,630 Is it a minor after the f or the c? 831 01:08:53,714 --> 01:08:55,716 - Which bit? - The verses. 832 01:08:57,134 --> 01:08:58,635 Yeah, it's a minor. 833 01:08:58,719 --> 01:09:03,223 A situation like this is really good for the creative force 834 01:09:03,307 --> 01:09:06,143 because I think as creative people 835 01:09:06,226 --> 01:09:10,230 we kind of, get in our rooms and we get really attached. 836 01:09:10,314 --> 01:09:13,900 That's one of the reasons why being creative is so difficult because it is you. 837 01:09:13,984 --> 01:09:15,193 It's a part of you. 838 01:09:15,277 --> 01:09:17,988 But I think to be the, the... 839 01:09:18,071 --> 01:09:21,283 To really let the art have a life of its own, 840 01:09:21,366 --> 01:09:22,951 you have to detach from it. 841 01:09:27,914 --> 01:09:29,875 Well, that might be nice. Let's do that. 842 01:09:29,958 --> 01:09:30,959 That's a cool groove. 843 01:09:31,877 --> 01:09:34,004 - All right, let's try that. - Here we go. 844 01:09:34,087 --> 01:09:35,589 Roll tape, roll tape. 845 01:09:36,089 --> 01:09:37,257 Take a marker. 846 01:09:37,341 --> 01:09:40,260 One, two, one, two, three, four. 847 01:11:45,177 --> 01:11:48,722 I think it's really good to have the fear, you know, of... 848 01:11:48,805 --> 01:11:52,684 The fear of failure and the fear of not being able to do your job, 849 01:11:52,767 --> 01:11:54,352 properly at all, I think you need it. 850 01:11:54,436 --> 01:11:56,146 I've had, you know, all sorts of careers, 851 01:11:56,229 --> 01:12:00,108 but in this one I think it's good to be just close to the edge all the time, 852 01:12:00,192 --> 01:12:03,862 'cause it keeps you somewhat fresh and hungry, 853 01:12:03,945 --> 01:12:07,491 'cause I think when people stop getting hungry, especially with songs, 854 01:12:07,574 --> 01:12:09,743 then they start writing shit songs, you know. 855 01:13:18,687 --> 01:13:19,688 Nice one. 856 01:13:22,357 --> 01:13:25,277 It's cool. It feels like the '60s, you know, I think that's what they did. 857 01:13:25,902 --> 01:13:28,530 You know, that's why their output was so massive. 858 01:13:28,613 --> 01:13:30,115 You know, now we get so meticulous 859 01:13:30,198 --> 01:13:32,576 because you know how many people are watching. 860 01:13:32,659 --> 01:13:34,703 You know, with the Internet, whatever. 861 01:13:34,786 --> 01:13:36,305 That you feel like you have to check yourself 862 01:13:36,329 --> 01:13:37,682 and check yourself and check yourself. 863 01:13:37,706 --> 01:13:41,459 Whereas back then, it was just, fucking cut it and see how it goes, you know. 864 01:13:42,544 --> 01:13:45,088 - What's up, now? - Let's do another one. 865 01:13:45,171 --> 01:13:46,464 Yeah, all right. 866 01:13:59,603 --> 01:14:02,230 I wanted to represent 867 01:14:02,689 --> 01:14:04,774 and, I felt like my voice was important. 868 01:14:04,858 --> 01:14:08,778 This, lost on the river, you know, that I sat with Marcus and Taylor, 869 01:14:08,862 --> 01:14:10,462 you know, I felt really good about that. 870 01:14:10,530 --> 01:14:12,991 It's a beautiful tune, and I kind of felt like, 871 01:14:13,074 --> 01:14:15,785 I had to keep sort of you know, pushing it through 872 01:14:15,869 --> 01:14:17,888 and actually really where it started getting somewhere 873 01:14:17,912 --> 01:14:20,457 is 'cause Marcus was a champion of the song. 874 01:14:21,875 --> 01:14:24,336 Okay, let's try this intro and see if it will work. 875 01:14:24,419 --> 01:14:25,837 Are we rolling? 876 01:14:26,713 --> 01:14:28,381 Yes, we're rolling. 877 01:14:46,483 --> 01:14:48,026 Then you start singing here. 878 01:14:49,319 --> 01:14:51,047 - Okay, that's... - We're gonna pace the whole round. 879 01:14:51,071 --> 01:14:52,489 You're going the whole round, okay. 880 01:15:28,274 --> 01:15:30,193 - Yeah, it's kinda... - Yeah. 881 01:15:31,277 --> 01:15:32,320 Close, but not. 882 01:15:32,404 --> 01:15:34,072 I think it's not found the pocket. 883 01:15:34,155 --> 01:15:37,701 No. Can we just try it one time like a more... 884 01:15:37,784 --> 01:15:39,369 Like, so that we're leaving space 885 01:15:39,452 --> 01:15:42,789 but we're playing the 6/8 but just not with a... 886 01:15:44,082 --> 01:15:45,458 - Rhythm but more... - Yeah. 887 01:15:45,542 --> 01:15:48,211 More, like, just following the voice, you know. 888 01:15:48,294 --> 01:15:50,922 - Were we playing in 6/8? - I'm gonna try it. 889 01:15:57,554 --> 01:15:58,805 Come in here. 890 01:15:59,806 --> 01:16:00,807 Okay. 891 01:16:13,194 --> 01:16:15,029 No, I'm sorry. 892 01:16:15,655 --> 01:16:17,323 It's not... it's just... 893 01:16:17,991 --> 01:16:21,870 The thing that I liked about the movement, 894 01:16:21,953 --> 01:16:24,247 - it just feels like it's ploddy now. - Yeah. 895 01:16:24,330 --> 01:16:25,641 Can we just try that one one more time 896 01:16:25,665 --> 01:16:27,518 with, like, the same sort of feel, but slightly quicker. 897 01:16:27,542 --> 01:16:28,752 I'm just gonna play drums. 898 01:16:28,835 --> 01:16:30,035 - All right. - Let's try again. 899 01:16:36,593 --> 01:16:39,262 - I'm going faster than that. - You mean dramatically, yeah. 900 01:16:39,345 --> 01:16:40,764 One, two, three... 901 01:16:56,362 --> 01:16:57,614 Okay, come in here. 902 01:16:57,697 --> 01:16:58,697 Yeah. 903 01:16:58,740 --> 01:16:59,800 We were not finding the top 904 01:16:59,824 --> 01:17:01,304 - of the sequence there, yeah. - Yeah. 905 01:17:03,536 --> 01:17:06,831 Sounds like we're trying to elevate something that doesn't need elevating. 906 01:17:06,915 --> 01:17:09,083 What about the tempo you all were doing upstairs, 907 01:17:09,167 --> 01:17:11,169 with you strumming the acoustic guitar, 908 01:17:11,252 --> 01:17:12,921 - it's gone fon/vard... - Yeah... 909 01:17:13,004 --> 01:17:14,798 I thought that was better, personally. 910 01:17:14,881 --> 01:17:16,859 - Yeah, let's do that. - Let's do it from the same spot. 911 01:17:16,883 --> 01:17:18,802 - Do the chorus. - You play acoustic. Yeah. 912 01:17:18,885 --> 01:17:21,071 Okay, how about, let's try this. How about let's sing... 913 01:17:21,095 --> 01:17:23,073 Let's sing, lost on the river and you respond to it. 914 01:17:23,097 --> 01:17:24,682 One, two, three. 915 01:17:31,147 --> 01:17:33,733 I don't know, it's... I don't know. No. 916 01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:35,443 What do you think? 917 01:17:35,527 --> 01:17:38,167 If it doesn't... if it doesn't tickle your fancy, that's all right. 918 01:17:39,364 --> 01:17:41,991 That failure of agreement, that's less important 919 01:17:42,075 --> 01:17:43,827 than trying to get a feeling in the moment 920 01:17:43,910 --> 01:17:46,663 and to do it with a band that never played together before 921 01:17:46,746 --> 01:17:49,958 while doing this, potentially... 922 01:17:50,041 --> 01:17:51,835 Catastrophic thing, you know. 923 01:17:51,918 --> 01:17:53,753 Can we hit that djump? 924 01:17:53,837 --> 01:17:55,755 At a, like a little bit later? 925 01:17:56,089 --> 01:17:58,925 And also, like, do the same chords for the verse and the chorus, 926 01:17:59,008 --> 01:18:00,236 like a kind of galloping through. 927 01:18:00,260 --> 01:18:01,678 Are we just gonna hold on the one? 928 01:18:01,761 --> 01:18:02,863 Are we gonna hold on the one between... 929 01:18:02,887 --> 01:18:04,865 Why don't we just try a chorus? Can we try a chorus? 930 01:18:04,889 --> 01:18:06,449 - So we're all on the same page. - Yeah. 931 01:18:06,474 --> 01:18:08,226 - Yeah. - What are we trying? 932 01:18:08,309 --> 01:18:09,978 Just try a chorus like that. 933 01:18:10,061 --> 01:18:11,813 I'm getting very, very confused. 934 01:18:11,896 --> 01:18:14,190 - Why don't we go and hear... - Let's hear that. 935 01:18:14,274 --> 01:18:16,194 Yeah, I know we didn't lock it at the very top... 936 01:18:22,448 --> 01:18:26,286 Even when you've mixed a record and you compile it into a sequence 937 01:18:26,369 --> 01:18:28,663 quite often the first playback, you'll go, 938 01:18:28,746 --> 01:18:31,708 "that didn't actually work, that transitional." That... 939 01:18:31,791 --> 01:18:34,460 That the energy of that track isn't quite what I thought it was 940 01:18:34,544 --> 01:18:36,796 and then something else will surprise you 941 01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,757 but obviously, you know, you wait to be disappointed. 942 01:19:08,536 --> 01:19:10,038 I think we should move on. 943 01:19:10,830 --> 01:19:12,332 I think we should move on. 944 01:19:13,875 --> 01:19:15,168 No. Do another song. 945 01:19:16,336 --> 01:19:17,378 I just... 946 01:19:19,088 --> 01:19:20,298 It's like... 947 01:19:21,090 --> 01:19:22,091 I don't know. 948 01:19:22,175 --> 01:19:24,775 It sounded great when you guys were playing upstairs at the table. 949 01:19:24,844 --> 01:19:26,444 Once you add the band it just doesn't... 950 01:19:26,512 --> 01:19:28,598 - Yeah. - Yeah, I think the band makes it worse... 951 01:19:28,681 --> 01:19:29,682 Okay. 952 01:19:30,642 --> 01:19:31,952 Wait, the thing about this song is that 953 01:19:31,976 --> 01:19:34,145 it's been... it's a real... Been a re-creation of... 954 01:19:34,228 --> 01:19:35,521 - Yeah. - Everybody's kind of, 955 01:19:35,605 --> 01:19:37,416 you know, which makes it harder to pin down, I think. 956 01:19:37,440 --> 01:19:38,600 - Yeah, yeah. - But it's cool. 957 01:19:38,650 --> 01:19:42,278 It's the only time we've failed to lock on a groove, really. 958 01:19:42,362 --> 01:19:44,340 Would you, maybe, want to take a breath and come back to it? 959 01:19:44,364 --> 01:19:46,824 Should we switch to another song and then come back to this? 960 01:19:46,908 --> 01:19:48,534 - If you want to... - It's up to you. 961 01:19:49,035 --> 01:19:50,638 - Liberty street? - Let's do Liberty street. 962 01:19:50,662 --> 01:19:51,704 Yeah. 963 01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:53,432 - Let's switch to something... - It'll be easy. 964 01:19:53,456 --> 01:19:54,896 - Completely different. - What? Yeah. 965 01:19:55,041 --> 01:19:56,209 You already know, like... 966 01:19:56,292 --> 01:19:57,710 - Yeah. - Yeah. 967 01:20:09,806 --> 01:20:10,807 Okay. 968 01:21:35,433 --> 01:21:37,185 Each song that I write is like, 969 01:21:37,268 --> 01:21:41,981 I put, like, every fucking ounce and heart and everything into it 970 01:21:42,065 --> 01:21:44,150 because I don't... I just, you know... 971 01:21:45,276 --> 01:21:47,278 I don't sit down and, like, write 10 songs, 972 01:21:47,361 --> 01:21:49,238 you know, I, like, write one. 973 01:21:49,322 --> 01:21:50,382 You know, and I put all my eggs 974 01:21:50,406 --> 01:21:51,925 in that basket. Maybe I shouldn't do that, 975 01:21:51,949 --> 01:21:56,579 but, like, right now that's the kind of songwriter I am and it's just like, you know... 976 01:21:56,662 --> 01:21:59,457 So I just, I really could not deal with that. 977 01:22:53,219 --> 01:22:56,139 You sang the first and last verse from that beautiful. 978 01:22:56,222 --> 01:22:58,307 We should probably should just stop this one now. 979 01:22:58,391 --> 01:22:59,684 Okay. 980 01:22:59,767 --> 01:23:01,286 - Maybe one more time. - No, I'm willing to hear it. 981 01:23:01,310 --> 01:23:04,230 Look, you know what, it ended, it was over. 982 01:23:04,313 --> 01:23:05,481 - It sounded great... - Cool. 983 01:23:05,565 --> 01:23:07,358 It started and it sounded great. 984 01:23:08,526 --> 01:23:09,944 Cool. 985 01:23:15,992 --> 01:23:21,747 The local post office was very good about not saying where he lived, 986 01:23:21,831 --> 01:23:24,375 but you ask around enough and you find out. 987 01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,676 It's not hard in a town of this size 988 01:23:33,759 --> 01:23:36,012 to figure out where somebody's living. 989 01:23:36,095 --> 01:23:40,516 So, his sense of security and privacy 990 01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,060 started to get invaded more and more, 991 01:23:43,144 --> 01:23:46,647 and it started getting more and more unnerving for him. 992 01:23:46,772 --> 01:23:49,358 He found people on his roof, 993 01:23:49,442 --> 01:23:52,069 he found people rooting around, looking for this or that 994 01:23:52,153 --> 01:23:54,280 like, "did Bob drop that gum wrapper?" 995 01:23:54,363 --> 01:23:57,617 They found a couple in his bed when they came home one time. 996 01:24:13,883 --> 01:24:16,552 It must have been awful when he realised that it was ending. 997 01:24:16,636 --> 01:24:18,930 That the public was too close to him again. 998 01:24:19,013 --> 01:24:24,185 Bob just decided to leave and with very little ceremony he just left. 999 01:24:57,885 --> 01:25:02,598 If the band hadn't come in and Dylan hadn't come in to that house 1000 01:25:03,307 --> 01:25:07,144 then you think, like, what wouldn't have happened after that. 1001 01:25:07,228 --> 01:25:09,939 You know, really the whole life of the band, 1002 01:25:10,022 --> 01:25:14,110 and most of Dylan's output for the next 10 years, 1003 01:25:14,193 --> 01:25:17,446 you know, used that kind of fusion and that collaboration. 1004 01:25:17,530 --> 01:25:20,157 Makes you realise what a crucial time it was for... 1005 01:25:20,241 --> 01:25:21,742 For both those artists. 1006 01:25:22,785 --> 01:25:24,346 So, what's the rhythm you want to do with that? 1007 01:25:24,370 --> 01:25:25,454 I don't know. 1008 01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:29,542 So, if we did like a... 1009 01:25:34,547 --> 01:25:38,134 I think I've got a certain confidence back that I might have lost a bit. 1010 01:25:38,217 --> 01:25:39,969 I got to the point where I felt like a... 1011 01:25:40,052 --> 01:25:42,638 You know, might not ever write a song again. 1012 01:25:42,722 --> 01:25:44,199 I think a lot of people go through that, 1013 01:25:44,223 --> 01:25:46,809 but I felt confident that, like, when push comes to shove, 1014 01:25:47,310 --> 01:25:48,644 I can sit down and write a song 1015 01:25:48,728 --> 01:25:51,772 and it not sound identical to the song before. 1016 01:26:23,596 --> 01:26:25,264 Rhiannon, that sounds so cool. 1017 01:26:26,098 --> 01:26:28,809 Marcus, tell me this, is this, is this too thick? 1018 01:26:28,893 --> 01:26:30,519 I'm trying to thin it right. 1019 01:26:34,398 --> 01:26:36,734 Yeah, just so, so there's something playing the chord. 1020 01:26:37,485 --> 01:26:39,987 Yeah, but no real... Nothing else, you know. 1021 01:26:48,537 --> 01:26:49,580 Yeah. 1022 01:27:12,770 --> 01:27:15,106 Some, some pressures that I came in with, 1023 01:27:15,189 --> 01:27:18,025 I still feel the same way and I always will, 1024 01:27:18,109 --> 01:27:19,628 and may that always be the case, I guess. 1025 01:27:19,652 --> 01:27:23,739 'Cause you look at Marcus who just came in as a... 1026 01:27:23,823 --> 01:27:26,409 An assassin and just whatever, whatever he picked up, 1027 01:27:26,492 --> 01:27:28,327 hejust turned into an incredible track. 1028 01:28:00,443 --> 01:28:02,319 Cool, the way you waited for that. 1029 01:28:58,584 --> 01:28:59,728 You kind of crushed it, Marcus. 1030 01:28:59,752 --> 01:29:00,872 - Sang it great, man! - Yeah. 1031 01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:04,173 I don't think, I don't think that third verse works. 1032 01:29:04,256 --> 01:29:06,258 I think maybe it should just be two verses. 1033 01:29:06,342 --> 01:29:07,343 I don't know. 1034 01:29:08,260 --> 01:29:09,261 That was... 1035 01:29:09,929 --> 01:29:12,014 I wrote that third verse. It feels... 1036 01:29:12,097 --> 01:29:14,016 - No, it... - No, man, it's great. 1037 01:29:14,099 --> 01:29:15,744 Oh, man, it's saying, like when I come home to you. 1038 01:29:15,768 --> 01:29:17,937 See this... this is the... 1039 01:29:23,275 --> 01:29:24,275 Go hear it. 1040 01:29:24,318 --> 01:29:26,529 You know, I suppose after a while 1041 01:29:26,612 --> 01:29:30,699 maybe some of your fundamental insecurities can, 1042 01:29:30,783 --> 01:29:35,246 can be... like I would be way more insecure about this if this was two years ago. 1043 01:29:35,329 --> 01:29:38,040 Not because I am a better musician, but just because, 1044 01:29:38,123 --> 01:29:40,084 maybe I've had a bit more experience. 1045 01:29:40,834 --> 01:29:42,437 But there are some insecurities that never go away 1046 01:29:42,461 --> 01:29:43,647 and I guess, your question is whether, 1047 01:29:43,671 --> 01:29:45,881 you know, as an artist, you need to have insecurity. 1048 01:29:45,965 --> 01:29:47,883 I don't know. Maybe. 1049 01:30:05,985 --> 01:30:07,236 What do you think? 1050 01:30:07,319 --> 01:30:11,073 You know, you treat like this... It's like it's... it's sad. 1051 01:30:11,156 --> 01:30:14,743 But the point of the chorus is not drowning and not giving up. 1052 01:30:14,827 --> 01:30:17,746 I fully admit that I bring a lot of my own baggage, 1053 01:30:17,830 --> 01:30:20,082 you know, but I can contribute 1054 01:30:20,791 --> 01:30:22,585 and I think the more that I 1055 01:30:22,668 --> 01:30:23,794 have confidence in that 1056 01:30:23,877 --> 01:30:25,146 and it's getting better and better, 1057 01:30:25,170 --> 01:30:27,423 but the, you know, and this, this was... 1058 01:30:27,881 --> 01:30:29,276 I mean, it's amazing what the difference 1059 01:30:29,300 --> 01:30:31,176 in having somebody believe in you 1060 01:30:31,802 --> 01:30:32,845 will do. 1061 01:30:33,345 --> 01:30:35,639 Do you think... do you think it sits okay? 1062 01:30:35,764 --> 01:30:38,517 - Yeah, I think... I think it's amazing. - Okay. 1063 01:30:38,601 --> 01:30:40,936 Yeah, I... when your voice goes that low, 1064 01:30:41,020 --> 01:30:43,272 the kind of texture of it, it's ridiculous. 1065 01:30:43,355 --> 01:30:44,607 Okay. 1066 01:30:44,690 --> 01:30:46,942 And I don't know, if you want to sing with girls. 1067 01:30:47,026 --> 01:30:48,527 We'll have girls sing on it as well. 1068 01:31:09,757 --> 01:31:12,092 The best thing about this bunch of people is that 1069 01:31:12,176 --> 01:31:15,137 there is so much acceptance and there is so much support. 1070 01:31:15,220 --> 01:31:17,306 Every single version of every song, 1071 01:31:17,389 --> 01:31:20,976 we all feel so motivated to do right by them, you know? 1072 01:31:21,060 --> 01:31:22,144 To not let them down. 1073 01:31:22,227 --> 01:31:23,227 Go all the way. 1074 01:31:23,270 --> 01:31:25,957 Why are we waiting? Let's just go and record one over there, just like this. 1075 01:31:25,981 --> 01:31:27,042 - Okay. - 'Cause I think it's sick! 1076 01:31:27,066 --> 01:31:29,151 All right. What, the whole thing or just the... 1077 01:31:29,234 --> 01:31:30,361 All right. 1078 01:31:31,904 --> 01:31:32,905 Words. 1079 01:31:33,906 --> 01:31:36,742 You know, we've struggled through a couple of our songs. 1080 01:31:36,825 --> 01:31:38,105 There's moments where you think, 1081 01:31:39,453 --> 01:31:41,333 "is this gonna shift into walking away from it?" 1082 01:31:42,122 --> 01:31:44,750 But that didn't happen with this group. It never happened once. 1083 01:33:26,894 --> 01:33:30,564 This song, it certainly grows out of life around us 1084 01:33:30,647 --> 01:33:32,399 and when there's a song that resonates 1085 01:33:32,483 --> 01:33:35,360 it's hard to know. It is a mystery, it is metaphysical. 1086 01:34:36,672 --> 01:34:38,215 This is fucking gorgeous. 1087 01:34:39,383 --> 01:34:40,926 It's gonna make me cry. 1088 01:35:13,458 --> 01:35:16,920 I feel better now, but it's, it's, you know... it was really hard. 1089 01:35:17,004 --> 01:35:20,340 I learnt I can sit down and, 1090 01:35:22,092 --> 01:35:25,178 you know, write a really good piece of music. 1091 01:35:26,179 --> 01:35:30,225 I'm just finding my way to it and everything is a step in that direction. 1092 01:35:30,309 --> 01:35:31,810 I think this was a big step. 1093 01:35:31,894 --> 01:35:33,574 Yeah, this was supposed to be a rehearsal. 1094 01:35:34,646 --> 01:35:36,291 And then Marcus was like, "let's just cut it right here 1095 01:35:36,315 --> 01:35:38,066 "while they're working in the other room." 1096 01:35:38,150 --> 01:35:40,461 I didn't really do much, I just used the guitar as an excuse 1097 01:35:40,485 --> 01:35:41,965 to sit in the room while they did it. 1098 01:35:42,529 --> 01:35:44,156 - Good job! - Oh, man! 1099 01:35:44,239 --> 01:35:45,341 That was so fun, doing that. 1100 01:35:45,365 --> 01:35:47,701 See, that's... that's the way it was set to be. 1101 01:35:47,784 --> 01:35:49,304 When you guys are all in the room together. 1102 01:35:49,328 --> 01:35:51,496 - Yeah, we're just like vibin' and... - Yeah. 1103 01:35:51,830 --> 01:35:53,308 That's how it goes you know, 'cause then you relax 1104 01:35:53,332 --> 01:35:55,012 - and you're not thinkin' about it. - Yeah. 1105 01:35:55,459 --> 01:35:57,753 I feel like any pressure, head-trip things 1106 01:35:57,836 --> 01:35:59,171 that any of us had going in 1107 01:35:59,963 --> 01:36:02,025 were removed because everybody did carry their weight. 1108 01:36:02,049 --> 01:36:03,467 Yeah, thanks man. 1109 01:36:04,343 --> 01:36:07,304 I'm happy with all of the songs, 1110 01:36:07,387 --> 01:36:10,057 but I guess time will be the ultimate judge. 1111 01:36:10,140 --> 01:36:12,434 You know, there's still so much that remains to be seen 1112 01:36:12,517 --> 01:36:14,227 with how, how the record's released. 1113 01:36:21,068 --> 01:36:25,656 I don't remember when I became aware of these songs being bootlegged. 1114 01:36:25,739 --> 01:36:28,617 Some enterprising young men out here in California 1115 01:36:28,700 --> 01:36:32,454 turned these tunes into an album called the great white wonder. 1116 01:36:32,537 --> 01:36:34,206 I had no intention of putting them out. 1117 01:36:34,289 --> 01:36:35,624 I don't even... 1118 01:36:35,707 --> 01:36:37,018 I wouldn't know where to get this record. 1119 01:36:37,042 --> 01:36:39,544 I guess they were selling them in record stores. 1120 01:36:51,306 --> 01:36:56,478 And it becomes the first rock and roll bootleg record ever. 1121 01:36:57,396 --> 01:36:59,666 These things spread like wildfire through the underground, 1122 01:36:59,690 --> 01:37:01,525 but it was just like, people wanted to buy it 1123 01:37:01,608 --> 01:37:03,753 and more people want to buy it, now more people want to buy it, 1124 01:37:03,777 --> 01:37:05,654 now somebody else is bootlegging the bootleg. 1125 01:37:05,737 --> 01:37:07,990 You are talking 300,000 or 400,000 copies. 1126 01:37:08,073 --> 01:37:10,867 Eventually coming to the attention of rolling stone 1127 01:37:10,951 --> 01:37:14,579 for them to write "Dylan's basement tapes should be released." 1128 01:37:15,914 --> 01:37:19,751 A rehearsal tape is really what the basement tapes are. 1129 01:37:19,835 --> 01:37:22,504 They are not gonna turn it into Columbia records, 1130 01:37:22,587 --> 01:37:24,297 but they are great demos 1131 01:37:24,381 --> 01:37:28,385 to send out to other bands and other singers 1132 01:37:28,468 --> 01:37:30,595 who are going to cover Bob's songs. 1133 01:37:34,099 --> 01:37:36,139 There's a great Bob Dylan song, it goes like this... 1134 01:38:24,357 --> 01:38:29,279 It's always interesting when someone takes a song of yours and re-records it. 1135 01:38:32,407 --> 01:38:35,535 But these songs weren't tailor made for anybody. 1136 01:38:35,619 --> 01:38:37,829 I just wrote what I felt like writing. 1137 01:38:38,914 --> 01:38:40,582 All right, let's do it, y'all. 1138 01:38:42,375 --> 01:38:44,711 Let's see if we can blow some stuff off. 1139 01:38:54,513 --> 01:38:56,389 The only word that always comes to mind 1140 01:38:56,473 --> 01:38:58,600 when I listen to the basement tapes is "joy." 1141 01:38:59,142 --> 01:39:02,437 And as someone growing up wanting to write songs 1142 01:39:02,521 --> 01:39:06,733 and wanting to believe that it wasn't just about getting famous, 1143 01:39:06,817 --> 01:39:09,486 or it wasn'tjust about making a career. 1144 01:39:09,569 --> 01:39:12,280 I pictured them, if none of them had ever become famous 1145 01:39:12,364 --> 01:39:13,782 maybe doing the same thing. 1146 01:39:53,905 --> 01:39:56,241 You know, when somebody is singing something 1147 01:39:56,366 --> 01:39:59,077 into a microphone and they smile, you can hear it. 1148 01:39:59,161 --> 01:40:03,498 And that's the thing that I feel like you can hear so clearly in the recordings. 1149 01:40:03,582 --> 01:40:06,251 I mean, it's really like made me step back and think 1150 01:40:06,334 --> 01:40:08,962 the recordings aren't the project, you know. 1151 01:40:09,045 --> 01:40:10,755 It's like, it's this process that is. 1152 01:40:34,112 --> 01:40:35,590 This feels like the basement tapes a lot 1153 01:40:35,614 --> 01:40:37,908 'cause I think we've tried to stick to that same spirit 1154 01:40:37,991 --> 01:40:40,035 you know, and we've been having so much fun 1155 01:40:40,118 --> 01:40:42,537 outside of any musical context as well 1156 01:40:42,621 --> 01:40:45,207 which you get that spirit from the original basement tape. 1157 01:40:45,290 --> 01:40:48,251 Those guys just had fun cuttin' up and hangin' out. 1158 01:40:48,335 --> 01:40:51,379 We're not trying to copy that, but we're trying to enjoy ourselves 1159 01:40:51,463 --> 01:40:53,465 with what's a unique opportunity. 1160 01:40:53,548 --> 01:40:55,588 Somebody's gonna want to pick an argument with this. 1161 01:40:55,634 --> 01:40:58,220 To hell with that. You've missed the point. 1162 01:40:58,303 --> 01:41:01,014 This has been one of the mostjoyful things I've ever done 1163 01:41:01,097 --> 01:41:04,476 and it's most surprising and I couldn't have had a better time.